1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,190 captain kelly it's scott pelley 2 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:07,110 hi scott every time i hear your name on 3 00:00:15,190 --> 00:00:08,960 60 minutes i turn around and it sounds 4 00:00:19,029 --> 00:00:17,109 i to be honest with you i have to tell 5 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:19,039 you how many people have stopped me on 6 00:00:22,950 --> 00:00:21,439 the street astonished to see me because 7 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:22,960 they heard on the radio that scott 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,870 that's pretty funny 9 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:36,630 i kid you not i think some people in the 10 00:00:40,549 --> 00:00:38,559 audience would prefer 11 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:40,559 that i'd be up there too i would gladly 12 00:00:47,110 --> 00:00:42,879 trade a consonant to switch places with 13 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:49,029 well we enjoy watching 60 minutes up 14 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:50,960 here so i guess if you were here with us 15 00:00:59,349 --> 00:00:53,280 you could do some uh you could do it 16 00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:01,750 absolutely we'd be proud to do it let's 17 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:03,680 talk about the medical mission for just 18 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:05,840 a moment a round-trip mission to mars 19 00:01:11,109 --> 00:01:08,400 would take a year and a half or so what 20 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:11,119 are some of the big unanswered questions 21 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:18,630 the big one we have right now is this 22 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:21,040 issue with our vision and 23 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:22,320 you know how 24 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,080 astronauts some astronauts on 25 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:26,479 long-duration space flights have had a 26 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:28,560 uh you know degradation in their vision 27 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:31,600 that is concerning you you wouldn't want 28 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:33,840 you know some astronauts to get on mars 29 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:35,600 after a year and a half or you know 30 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:36,960 longer or when they're coming home and 31 00:01:40,069 --> 00:01:38,799 not be able to see 32 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:40,079 it's something we don't understand but 33 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:41,840 it's something we're working uh hard at 34 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:43,680 understanding and mitigating the effects 35 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,840 we've done a lot of research up here 36 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:47,520 since i've been here to better 37 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:49,119 understand that 38 00:01:54,149 --> 00:01:51,520 and then there's the more commonly uh 39 00:01:55,109 --> 00:01:54,159 discussed issues of bone loss and muscle 40 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:55,119 loss 41 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,280 uh that we you know have a pretty good 42 00:02:02,230 --> 00:01:59,680 handle on and understand how to mitigate 43 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:02,240 those through exercise and diet 44 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:03,119 um 45 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:04,079 and then there's the effects of 46 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:06,560 radiation and you know the study we're 47 00:02:09,350 --> 00:02:08,399 doing with my brother 48 00:02:11,270 --> 00:02:09,360 is 49 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:11,280 you know partially looking into that and 50 00:02:14,229 --> 00:02:12,640 how that affects 51 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:14,239 us and the the environment here on a 52 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:22,309 you and your brother are the only 53 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:24,800 siblings to have flown in space and i 54 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:25,920 wonder 55 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:29,440 what does having identical twins get you 56 00:02:40,630 --> 00:02:38,150 well you know we are very uh very 57 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:40,640 similar genetically um 58 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:41,440 not 59 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:45,200 you know 100 percent the same but 99.9 60 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:50,949 similar or identical with regards to our 61 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,920 dna our rna you know and proteins now 62 00:02:57,509 --> 00:02:54,959 those things 63 00:02:59,350 --> 00:02:57,519 manifest themselves differently in in 64 00:03:01,110 --> 00:02:59,360 individuals based on 65 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:01,120 you know various factors including their 66 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:03,519 environment but you know the two of us 67 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:05,280 are as close as you can get with the 68 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:07,200 people that have flown in space 69 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:08,080 and 70 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:10,000 you know there are a lot of factors here 71 00:03:14,949 --> 00:03:12,720 that can affect us on a genetic scale 72 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:14,959 for instance of the radiation or you 73 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:16,560 know even the microgravity environment 74 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:18,640 so having my brother as a control 75 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:20,560 subject you know someone that nasa has 76 00:03:26,869 --> 00:03:22,720 studied for a long time knows 77 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:26,879 knows him very well have has samples um 78 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:27,840 you know 79 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:31,040 for him from from decades ago it's a you 80 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:33,280 know a perfect opportunity to see 81 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:35,519 how we change on a genetic basis over 82 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:37,040 the course of the year i'm going to be 83 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:44,869 now i know the answer to this question 84 00:03:52,949 --> 00:03:47,040 but tell the folks at home why you have 85 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:55,110 well um it's interesting you know it's 86 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:57,920 kind of awkward the position you you've 87 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:01,439 your natural like floating position 88 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:02,959 it's i don't know it's sort of 89 00:04:07,429 --> 00:04:04,480 comfortable but it's awkward to have 90 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:07,439 your arms out like this i think um 91 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:10,319 it's also a little chilly in here 92 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:12,640 so it's kind of a combination of the two 93 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:14,400 i would put my hands in my pockets but 94 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:17,040 then people tell me hey 95 00:04:24,710 --> 00:04:18,079 why are you putting your hands in your 96 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:26,150 and if you move your arms around too 97 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:27,600 much you start to float around isn't 98 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:29,280 that right you start to 99 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:35,990 i guess you you could 100 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:38,000 maybe a little bit but you're really the 101 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:39,040 major 102 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:45,040 is that this is not comfortable i mean 103 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:47,040 it's somewhat comfortable but it's also 104 00:04:58,230 --> 00:04:49,520 awkward to be floating around like this 105 00:05:02,150 --> 00:05:00,310 this is your fourth mission 106 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:02,160 in space you've been the commander of 107 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:04,400 the space station before 108 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:06,000 the first element of the station was 109 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:08,560 launched in 1998. 110 00:05:20,590 --> 00:05:17,430 so i was here in uh in 2007 uh as a 111 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:20,600 shuttle crew member and then in 112 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:23,440 2010 i launched in october came home in 113 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:26,880 2011. so it was about four years uh a 114 00:05:29,749 --> 00:05:27,759 gap 115 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:29,759 between the time i lived here for six 116 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:32,639 months and now and i was surprised at 117 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:34,240 how 118 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:36,320 similar it looked um 119 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:37,680 you know it really didn't look like it 120 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:39,680 had aged much at all 121 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:41,280 the systems are still operating very 122 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:43,600 well of course as as things get older 123 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:44,479 you 124 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:46,800 generally will have more problems and we 125 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:49,120 expect that but we plan for it but the 126 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:50,400 you know the space station is in pretty 127 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,160 good shape and you know i think we can 128 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:54,240 fly it for a long time and do a lot of a 129 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,600 lot of great research here we're going 130 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:57,600 to have 400 experiments running while 131 00:06:06,629 --> 00:05:59,759 i'm here for this year and you know we 132 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:08,230 you know there are a lot of things you 133 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:10,479 can't tell from television what what 134 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:13,039 does it sound like in there what does it 135 00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:14,960 smell like in there does it smell like a 136 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:22,469 you know the the smell is a combination 137 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:26,550 you know and it smells differently in 138 00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:28,240 different places but you know 139 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:30,720 occasionally like an antiseptic 140 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:34,560 uh smell combined with like garbage 141 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:38,870 but it doesn't really smell bad but it 142 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:40,960 does have a unique smell now space has 143 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:43,120 its own unique smell so whenever a 144 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:45,520 vehicle docks 145 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:48,000 or you know if guys are out doing a 146 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:49,360 space walk 147 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:51,680 the smell of space when you open up the 148 00:06:58,150 --> 00:06:55,280 uh the hatch is very uh distinct it's 149 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,160 kind of like a burnt uh 150 00:07:02,469 --> 00:07:00,240 like a burning metal smell if you could 151 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:02,479 imagine what that would smell like and 152 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:04,080 as far as the sounds on the space 153 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:05,680 station it's uh 154 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,319 you know it's pumps fans motors 155 00:07:12,309 --> 00:07:10,880 certain modules are louder than others 156 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:12,319 but it's uh 157 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:14,400 you know it's generally a pretty nice 158 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:16,960 working environment it's not 159 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:27,270 now you're going to be up there about a 160 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:30,479 year and i wonder does that feel like a 161 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:41,270 you know there 162 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:44,400 are probably some similarities i would i 163 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:47,199 would suspect you know you can't leave 164 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:48,080 uh 165 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:49,520 you know no matter what happens you're 166 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:55,189 you know we don't get to go outside so 167 00:07:59,189 --> 00:07:56,960 that's a little bit different i would 168 00:08:02,390 --> 00:07:59,199 imagine a lot of jails people get fresh 169 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:02,400 air so you don't you don't get that here 170 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:05,199 and you don't get real sunlight you know 171 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:06,639 there's a little sun coming through the 172 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:08,720 windows but 173 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:09,759 so 174 00:08:12,629 --> 00:08:10,960 you know it's 175 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:12,639 in some ways i guess it's similar in 176 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:14,479 some ways it's uh 177 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,440 different 178 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:17,039 the big difference though is here we're 179 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:19,440 here but here by choice so that makes i 180 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:22,080 guess the situation feel a little bit 181 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:29,430 but in all serials but in all 182 00:08:34,149 --> 00:08:31,360 seriousness what are the psychological 183 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:34,159 effects of being confined in that space 184 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:42,149 yeah so i've been up here you know 185 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:44,480 almost 90 days and uh 186 00:08:46,750 --> 00:08:45,600 i got 187 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:46,760 you know about 188 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:50,399 250 to go or something like that uh and 189 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:51,839 yeah it seems like i've been up here for 190 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:55,040 a long time already 191 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:57,360 but the psychological effects are one of 192 00:09:01,590 --> 00:08:58,880 the reasons we're doing this is to 193 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:01,600 better understand that now i think 194 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:04,240 at least where i am at this point i'm 195 00:09:08,070 --> 00:09:06,080 not going to have any major issues with 196 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:08,080 it but i'm very conscious of the fact 197 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:10,080 that i have to manage my fatigue level 198 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:11,920 and you know rest when i have time to 199 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:14,480 rest and exercise and you know do all 200 00:09:19,269 --> 00:09:16,959 those things that that can you know just 201 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:19,279 help me get to the end of this with the 202 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:21,040 amount of energy and 203 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:22,720 you know attention to detail and the 204 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,640 enthusiasm i have at the beginning but 205 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:26,160 certainly you know that's one of the 206 00:09:29,190 --> 00:09:27,360 reasons we're doing this if we're going 207 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:29,200 to go further from earth you know to 208 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:31,440 mars or somewhere else someday we have 209 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:32,080 to 210 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:34,240 you know have a good understanding of 211 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:36,720 the psychological impact on people and 212 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:38,880 not only you know psychologically but 213 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:40,880 how it affects their cognition you know 214 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:42,399 we're doing a lot of research on my 215 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:44,560 cognitive abilities and you know some of 216 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:46,160 those tests i'm doing will compare it to 217 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:48,160 my brother over the course of this year 218 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:50,080 although my cognition i think is 219 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:52,640 generally better than his in general but 220 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:55,680 we're still you know he's the closest 221 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:58,080 comparison we have but yeah all those 222 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:00,320 factors are one of the reasons why we're 223 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:09,190 scott kelly about 200 miles up traveling 224 00:10:16,150 --> 00:10:12,000 at 17 000 miles an hour we're grateful 225 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,670 my pleasure